No Count Blog

Hi everyone,

Well, I never imagined a day would come when WW decided to drop the No Count plan for new members.  Ever since the news trickled out on social media a few weeks ago, I’ve thought of little else.  At first, I just couldn’t believe it but eventually I started thinking about a way forward with ideas continuously racing around my head.  However, when I finally thought I’d made a decision about what to do, I’d change my mind a few days later.  I was thinking: Do I want to continue with No Count? Could I change to Flex? Could I leave WW? Could I join a different weight loss company?

I’ve lived and breathed No Count for the past two years and, as many of you know, I’ve finally cracked yo-yo dieting after decades of it!  Do I really want a change at this stage?

I did consider trying WW Flex, while still choosing the same NC foods I’ve been enjoying, and have tentatively tried pointing a few days over the past couple of weeks.  It’s a great plan, but it’s just not for me.  Since following No Count, there are so many foods that I don’t eat now and I know I would be tempted to fit them in with a daily points allowance.  It’s hard to go into great depth at explaining the success of No Count but cutting out many processed foods has certainly helped.

So this is the dilemma I’m faced with (and I’m sure many of you are too): I have a lot of loyalty and support for WW.  My life has changed so much for the better since I joined them – I’ve never felt so good, enjoyed such great food on a weekly basis or been as active and enjoyed new challenges as I have in the last two years.  I’ve made many lovely friends and have thoroughly enjoyed helping many of you out with No Count through the website, Connect, Instagram and Facebook.

But…I still want to follow No Count – the plan that’s not just helped me to lose weight but has enabled me to maintain that weight loss too – and it’s not going to be easy without the support of the app.

Yesterday, I had the pleasure of meeting Zoe and Greg at WW HQ with Lisa Coleman and her friend Vicky.  It was good to hear first-hand about what’s going to happen with No Count and to be reassured that some support will still be there.  Here are the key points from that meeting:

  • Weight Watchers, as a global company working in 11 different countries, has decided to just have one plan to follow in all their countries, and here that will be Flex.
  • WW are aware that many people follow NC and have had great success doing so.  They would like to continue to support those current members who decide to continue following NC.
  • WW coaches have undergone training recently and should be giving NC support to those who would like it.  Similarly, the online chat facility should still be offering NC help to those who ask for it.
  • Unfortunately, the app will be set for Flex only with the NC option stopping on 6th September 2018 for those who are currently following NC.  If you are not currently following NC, I don’t think you have that option on the app any more.
  • No second plan is going to be introduced to replace No Count.

I think I’ve known all along that I’ll carry on following No Count and, for the time-being, I’ll still be a WW member.  Even though I’m gutted about WW decision, we need to be able to deal with change and put a positive spin on it.  If you want to continue following No Count, you can still use the app to track your weeklies and this website will be here (you can now find the No Count list on the No Count Explained page).  I also suggest following Lisa’s ‘No Count Friends’ group on Facebook: this is a closed group and a fantastic NC support network.

I know there are many of you out there who’ve probably been through exactly the same thought processes and really wish NC were here to stay.  I hope you can continue to enjoy NC and help to keep the NC ‘flame’ alive.

Wishing you all the best and a massive thank you for all the support and messages I’ve received this week,

I’ll still continue to love No Count and I hope you can too:-)

Helen xxxxxxxx



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  1. Hi , I have been a WW gold member since 1985 and have maintained all that time using NC or the previous incarnations of similar ways of eating . I have noticed for some months that NC seemed to be slipping below the radar both in meetings and in magazine recipes and challenged about it . I was brushed off with denials of changes but guess what ? No count has gone ! I shall continue with my preferred way of eating and certainly will not be buying WW high calorie and high priced sweet products in order to do so ! I wish everyone well in their journey whichever way they choose to progress it

    1. Hi Irene, thanks for your comment. I know exactly how you feel and sympathise with you and everyone else in the same boat. Lots of us feel it was totally the wrong decision to make but it’s been made and we’ll have to do the best we can. I hope you continue to enjoy NC and help keep the NC plan ‘alive’. Good luck! Helen xxxxx

  2. I dabble between no count and flex and I’m horrified that WW are taking our choice away but decisions have been made and we have to cope. Knowing that people like you and Lisa and her group are here to support us will make life more bearable. Thank you so much for your help x

    1. Hi Olwen, and thank you so much for your comment. It’s good to hear you’re going to make the best you can out of this situation, and I’m glad that my site and the Facebook group will be able to help you. Good luck! Helen xxxx

  3. Hi Helen,like you and many others,I am really disappointed that WW are stopping NC.i have been a gold member for many years ,and found NC the best ever one for me,so I will continue NC and with yourfabrecipes hopefully will do so for the foreseeable future,looking forward to more of your great recipes,xx

    1. Hi Jan, I’m glad you’re going to carry on with No Count – it’s second nature now that we’ve been doing it for so long, and why change what’s working for us? Thanks for all your support and I wish you all the best, Helen xxxxx

  4. From a dedicated Weight Watcher I have tried all of the programs from points right up to Flex and everything in between. I hate when they change when I have usually just got to grip with which ever the last WW plan is. I lost 3 stone on points Feb 2010 to September 2010 then the change to SP and several 2 week holidays it took me 10 months to lose the last 10 to 14 pound. I blamed everything from SP to WW trying to make money with all that it entails to switch some time the kitchen scales and cookery books etc but like you WW are the only way to eat that has worked for me, keeping all the weight off for 7 years last July 2018. I did not hear of WW latest change until this week or should I say alteration. I do hope you all survive the latest change and thank you for all your help in the past.

    1. Thank you for your message Joan, and well done on your 7 years of maintaining – that’s awesome! I’m staying positive and am going to carry on what I’ve been doing for the last two years:-) Enjoy the rest of your weekend and here’s to the next 7 years:-) Helen xxxxx

  5. Thank you for giving me so much inspiration. I will continue to follow you on IG. I don’t do FB but I’m sure those that do will gain from dollfollo Lisa as you mentioned above. Many of your recipes are firm favourites in my house and I will continue to make them as well as looking forward to trying any new ones that appear on your website.
    Stay awesome, Margaret xx

  6. Thank you, Helen, for all your efforts. I think us NC people will be able to survive with the generic list and your wonderful website. I really like it – it’s like a better version of SW’s extra easy plan without the awful classes. Xx

    1. Thank you Tina – your last bit made me smile:-) We’ll definitely survive and keep spreading the word about how great No Count is:-) Helen xxxxxx

  7. Hi Helen- thank you for clearing up the issue of WW dropping no count. I’m really quite unhappy about this , I feel it is giving less choice to new members and is quite disrespectful of current members – after all none of us were consulted or asked for our opinions. I feel it’s very arbitrary, but of course WW is a business and will run with what seems successful and makes money!
    I personally am struggling with Flex and I’m not alone, quite a few members are still using the old system of pro points.
    Please keep up your wonderful recipes and thank you very much for your hints and tips, I find your emails really help and new recipes brilliant.
    Good luck with thanks Linda Feltham

    1. Awww thank you Linda, I totally agree with the points you made. As you say, they are a business and someone somewhere (who doesn’t follow No Count) has decided that it’s going to go. Wishing you all the best – and watch out for tomorrow’s new recipe – it’s yummy! Helen xxxx

  8. I will be using no count as it is what works for a lot of us. Flex is not for me, thank you for carrying on and I am s member of Lisa’s Facebook group. Love you guys for all the support.

    1. Awww thank you Elaine, and it’s great to hear you’ll still be following No Count:-) Wishing you all the best and enjoy the rest of your weekend, Helen xxxxx

  9. Hi Helen
    I think ww could at least let the app work. Like you I lost all my weight on no count and have been a goal member for over a year. I tried using the app with flex but I don’t think it will work for me. I realise they are a business but I feel really let down as a loyal member and I may cancel my membership.

    1. Hi Jan, I know exactly how you are feeling. I suppose if they’d continued to let current members use the app for No Count, then new members would wonder why they couldn’t use it too. I wish you well whatever your decision may be: I don’t want to risk going out on my own yet as I still need the support from the WW community: that’s the best bit about the app. Good luck! Helen xxxx

  10. Thank you so much Helen for all that you do and have done for everyone (and you look fantastic). I left WW in March as flex not for me but still love receiving all your great recipes and ideas. Good luck going forward. Jeanette xx

    1. Awww thank you Jeanette:-) I miss you on Connect and Fitbit now: my back’s not up to as much walking so I’ve started swimming now. Wishing you all the best too, Helen xxxxx

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